Mike Yeadon is a former chief scientist at Pfizer, and Mattias Desmet is a professor of psychology at Ghent University in Belgium.
Both Mattias and Mike have been on my podcast on separate occasions.
This time they were together.
They discussed
mass formation psychosis;
scientists not thinking critically;
totalitarianism and its parallels to Covid hysteria;
the human desire for belief in something; and
why Mike could have chosen a better American state in which to live.