Mattias Desmet and Mike Yeadon are two great men who think very deeply about things, and I have the utmost respect for their passion and insights into human behaviour and mental health. Or, rather, their desire to understand why people act in a certain way.
Human behaviour
Previously, Mattias chatted to me about mass formation (or mass hypnosis), although I am no longer persuaded by some of his premises, after listening to Peter Breggin and Jon Rappoport. Human behaviour is complex and highly nuanced at times, but, not unlike Frodo’s journey to Mount Doom, there are many simultaneous battles happening around us, from propaganda wars to psychological manipulation to dogmatic medical tyranny.

The “madness of crowds” concept is nevertheless compelling.
Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.
Charles MacKay
Our conversation
Mattias and Mike joined me for a conversation in which they gave a keyhole into their separate journeys to Mount Doom.
Mike’s anecdote about finding faith is particularly beautiful.